Introduction
Let’s face it: technology today can feel like a never-ending treadmill of complexity. As soon as we master one framework or cloud service, along comes another must-have tool or trend, promising to save us time and effort—only to add more layers of confusion and cost. We’ve been told that everything worthwhile lives in the cloud, that we need to embrace proprietary platforms, or that the fundamental principles we once held dear no longer matter. But what if that’s not true? What if the timeless patterns and simple building blocks of old—like the humble Unix pipe—still hold the keys to creating reliable, sustainable systems right on our own machines? This article will challenge the status quo, encouraging you to think differently about what you build, how you build it, and who really benefits when you choose one solution over another. It’s a call to remember your roots, to celebrate simplicity, and to reclaim the power that comes from building on solid, open foundations rather than the latest glossy facade.
For those not familiar with my style, from here we take on a personal daily work journal voice. I try to dive into the work itself, but get distracted by the broader issues that motivate me and feed my soul.
The Journey to MVP
Alright, with the pipeline workflow finished as what all the rage these days is to call “MVP” or minimum viable product, this is where the story really just begins. It’s amazing how many times you can mess things up on the first try. And on the second. And on the third. The idea is to learn each time and to not give up, especially of the original idea is a good one.
The Unix Philosophy and Pipes
This is the case with Unix pipes. Ken Thompson took in a whole bunch of ideas from around him and synthesized them into the Unix philosophy, and the world has never been the same. LISP was pretty important too, but it’s Unix that really caught on in all the ways that made it spread virally and become the heart of the Internet, mobile, supercomputers and micro-controllers.
The Fundamental Pattern
Lots of new and interesting and different ideas come along, but certain things that are easy to lose sight of remain right there under the surface as the fundamentals. And the concept of taking the output of one system and feeding it to the input of another system using very clear parameters and feeding them very clear argument values is one of them.
To some, this might seem like just plain common sense, the way functions work in programming, but in today’s world of infinite buzzwords and infinite next shiny object to go chasing, it’s worth reminding ourselves how important this simple fundamental, and often linear, pattern truly is. Pipes.
Modern Interpretations
Sometimes when I bring this up with folks, they’ll hearken back to a kooky ahead-of-its-time product called Yahoo Pipes. Exactly! Others will mention ITTT (If This, Then That), or the popular Zapier service. All also true, but proprietary. The core principle here is built into the fundamentals of Unix, and thus Linux, and thus as applicable today as the day it was created.
Historical Correction
Credit where it’s due. It wasn’t really Ken Thompson of Unix who created the pipes idea. It was… uh, Perplexity?
Perplexity: The concept of pipes in Unix was not created by Ken Thompson, but by Doug McIlroy. McIlroy, who was the head of the Bell Labs Computing Sciences Research Center, invented the Unix pipe and articulated the Unix philosophy[8].
The Unix Philosophy
McIlroy summarized the Unix philosophy as:
“Write programs that do one thing and do it well. Write programs to work together. Write programs to handle text streams, because that is a universal interface.”[8]
This philosophy emphasizes simplicity, modularity, and the power of combining small, focused tools. The pipe concept embodies this philosophy by allowing the output of one program to become the input of another, creating a powerful and flexible way to compose complex operations from simple components[1][7].
The Impact of Pipes
The importance of pipes in Unix and their lasting impact on computing cannot be overstated. They represent a fundamental pattern of data flow and program composition that has influenced numerous systems and tools beyond Unix itself, including the examples you mentioned like Yahoo Pipes, IFTTT, and Zapier[7].
The Unix pipe implementation, as introduced by McIlroy, provides a unidirectional interprocess communication channel. It allows for efficient data transfer between processes without the need for temporary files, and it handles synchronization between processes automatically[4]. This elegant solution to inter-process communication has stood the test of time and remains a core feature of Unix-like operating systems today.
Citations:
[1] https://logdy.dev/blog/post/introduction-to-pipes-in-unix-systems
[2] https://cscie2x.dce.harvard.edu/hw/ch01s06.html
[3] https://www.reddit.com/r/devops/comments/ue066o/why_developers_hate_shift_left_and_related/
[4] https://toroid.org/unix-pipe-implementation
[5] https://paulvanderlaken.com/2019/09/17/17-principles-of-unix-software-design/
[6] https://developercommunity.visualstudio.com/idea/467369/vertical-group-tab.html
[7] https://faun.pub/unix-pipes-explained-introductory-bec9edcd7a43?gi=dcd95512a07d
[8] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_philosophy?section=6
[9] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pipe_(Unix)
[10] https://klarasystems.com/articles/unix-philosophy-a-quick-look-at-the-ideas-that-made-unix/
And so that’s where I begin today. Everything is a Unix pipe. There are workflows. Workflows glue together the inputs and outputs from diverse systems. Yes, it might be the traditional stuff like using a formal API. But it also may be getting the user to download a series of files from a certain place in a certain way and putting them somewhere.
Browser Automation Options
There may be browser automation ala Google Puppeteer or Microsoft Playwright. Maybe (but generally not) Selenium or PhantomJS. I like the real Chrome browser of Puppeteer/Playwright as opposed to the chrome driver of Selenium… hmm, before I say anything definitive…
Me: Does Selenium still need the Chrome Driver? Does Playwright support other browsers? Did Puppeteer ever try to catch up? What’s the latest state of the browser automation landscape?
Perplexity: The browser automation landscape has evolved significantly in recent years, with several key developments across different tools:
Selenium
Selenium no longer requires manual ChromeDriver installation or configuration in newer versions. As of Selenium 4.10.0, the driver manager is fully integrated and will silently download drivers as needed[1]. This means you can now use Selenium with Chrome without explicitly specifying the ChromeDriver location.
Playwright
Playwright supports multiple browsers, including Chromium, Firefox, and WebKit[2]. It can also operate with Google Chrome and Microsoft Edge. Playwright uses its own browser builds by default, but can be configured to use stock browsers as well[10]. As of 2024, Playwright supports the following browser versions:
- Chromium 131.0
- Firefox 132.0
- WebKit 18.2[6]
Puppeteer
Puppeteer has primarily focused on Chrome/Chromium automation. While it hasn’t expanded to support other browsers directly, it has continued to evolve and improve its features for Chrome-based automation[7]. Puppeteer remains a powerful tool for tasks like web scraping, automated testing, and generating screenshots and PDFs[11].
Latest State of Browser Automation
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WebDriver BiDi: A new standard called WebDriver BiDi (bidirectional) has been developed to bring CDP-like capabilities to all browsers. As of 2024, BiDi is fully supported by major players like Google Chrome, Firefox, Puppeteer, and BrowserStack[4].
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Cross-browser support: Tools like Playwright have made significant strides in supporting multiple browsers, making cross-browser testing more streamlined[10].
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Integrated driver management: Selenium’s integration of driver management has simplified the setup process for users[1].
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Cloud-based solutions: Services like BrowserStack now offer cloud-based automation platforms supporting various tools and browsers, making it easier to run tests across multiple environments[5].
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Headless browsing advancements: Google Chrome and Microsoft Edge have introduced new headless mode implementations that more closely resemble regular headed mode, potentially impacting how automation tools interact with these browsers[10].
The browser automation landscape continues to evolve, with tools like Selenium, Playwright, and Puppeteer each offering unique strengths. The trend is towards easier setup, broader browser support, and more powerful automation capabilities across different platforms and devices.
Citations:
[1] https://stackoverflow.com/questions/76477186/selenium-not-requiring-chromedriver
[2] https://www.cuketest.com/playwright/docs/browsers/
[3] https://www.webshare.io/academy-article/what-is-puppeteer
[4] https://securityboulevard.com/2024/10/the-evolution-of-automated-browser-detection-a-cat-mouse-game/
[5] https://www.browserstack.com/guide/run-selenium-tests-using-selenium-chromedriver
[6] https://www.browserstack.com/docs/automate/playwright/browsers-and-os
[7] https://dev.to/zsevic/browser-automation-with-puppeteer-4c0h
[8] https://www.scriptworks.io/blog/web-automation/
[9] https://community.lambdatest.com/t/does-selenium-chromedriver-need-chrome-to-be-installed/18155
[10] https://playwright.dev/docs/browsers
[11] https://netnut.io/puppeteer-ui/
[12] https://www.scrapingbee.com/blog/what-is-a-headless-browser-best-solutions-for-web-scraping-at-scale/
[13] https://www.nuget.org/packages/selenium.webdriver.chromedriver/
[14] https://www.npmjs.com/package/playwright
[15] https://www.lambdatest.com/puppeteer
[16] https://blog.autoflow.tools/puppeteer-vs-playwright-the-right-choice-for-navigating-the-web-automation-landscape-in-2024/
Browser Integration Plans
Hmm, okay yes. This is important. One of the things that I will probably be incorporating into the pipeline today is the web browser, in at least 2 different ways:
- The Python webbrowser standard library package that pops up your OS’s default browser for semi-automated browser actions (please download)
- Either Puppeteer or Playwright for more fully automated browser actions (downloads automatically)
Both of these approaches actually show off localhost abilities that every SEO should have. You don’t have to be beholden to expensive cloud solutions to do some basic scraping or automation against products you already pay for. By using your system’s own default browser, it can use your default profile and so use all your automatically saved passwords.
The Invisible Barrier
There is an invisible barrier here that I have to design a payload meme to overcome, in both the literal and figurative sense. There’s always this pitch that “it’s easy because it’s hosted”. The latest I heard of this was the Replit pitch. But they’re venture funded and have a team working on it. They made a product so you don’t have to… so long as you use their product.
The list of low-code/no-code, AI IDEs and the like are endless, and some have merit in rapid prototyping or non-customized highly templated (on rails) versions. Arguably, that’s what I’m doing. With my linear pipeline approach and rigid template patterns, arguably my path is both having to know Python AND highly templated and on rails…
Custom Solutions vs Templates
Hmmm. But I’m actually doing highly custom things. I’m creating a way to plug highly custom off-the-rails things in Python onto rails. I’m scratching a rather unique itch. Getting over that invisible barrier is going to be a matter of killer-app use cases. And that’s what this weekend is about. Making the first in a series. Unfortunately, one of the more complicated ones, but I’ve implemented it several times already and have the sample code that I’ll be porting from right in the code base. It’s mostly a transplant job. You need to basically open the floodgates.
Embracing Imperfection
Life isn’t perfect. These processes modeled after Unix pipes and jerry-rigged into FastHTML / HTMX aren’t perfect. I will have to make compromises, and the expressiveness isn’t the exact form of expressiveness I would have designed under ideal conditions. But things are what things are and we lean into the strengths of what works best most of the time and aligns with who we are and what we love as individuals. In search of ikigai, aligning those 4 circles of the Venn diagram: what we love doing, what we’re good at, what we can get paid for and what the world needs, there will be rough edges, curlycues, spurs and other imperfections. We must form callouses and do the best we can with the time we have.
Moving Forward with BotifyLinkGraph
And so, that’s all the warm-up. That’s the mental stretching exercises if you will before we jump into this curlycue-ridden code that’s currently named BotifyLinkGraph and turn it into the new pipeline-driven workflow.
Framework Design Rules
And a bit of a reminder for myself; the stuff to really keep top-of-mind while I implement. There’s rules. These rules tackle that imperfection head-on in an honest lay-it-all bare sort of way. It goes something like this:
Yes, you’ve made a “framework” akin to Ruby on Rails (in its early days) or Django (in some of its multitudes of forms). But unlike them, the entire framework is designed to go into 1-and-only-1 file, framework, customizations, plugins and all. There is no second file in all of this. There is not directory diving. Everything external are standard libraries or pip installs. Now that pip has wheels, there is no conda. The upshot of all this is that there is only one surface-area which both you and your code-assistant LLMs need to pay attention to: the 1-file! Yes, this will make it grow long. But so what? Common wisdom of externalizing and abstracting away everything is wrong for this use case. We are here to learn, communicate well, and have a sort of uncommon total mastery that comes from uncommon total inclusion and easy, repeated re-contextualization that purges all uncertainty and unknowns. So yes, it is yet-another-framework, but it is one that uses the best of the modern Python stack to make the most expressive and complete apps in the lest amount of single surface-area pragmatically possible, and which creates a positive feedback loop of education, future-proof skill improvement and mastery.
On Language and Mastery
Pshwew! That was a mouthful. And yes, mastery. Mastering a craft. Master classes. They can’t take that away from me. I’m yielding on the gender thing, favoring craftsperson over craftsman, but when it comes time to say craftspersonship versus craftsmanship, I will choose the later. Flow sometimes wins. Not everything in our language needs to get ruined by a tarnished past. We can reclaim bits of our language. Hmmm, this is not the enumeration of things to keep in mind that I had intended. Get back on track.
Historical Context
So yes, the file will grow big. Resist the temptation to externalize. Bits will be traveling from BotifyLinkGraph into… into what? I’ve had a bunch of new names experimentally on past tries. Oh yeah, the past tries. And the tarnishing of the word mastery. Okay, one more tangent. These are important. They are the free-flowing free association dredging up of the important details that make all the difference.
The Evolution of My Systems
This project is like the 3rd or 4th big attempt at a generalized system in my
life. I’ve long since abandoned the prior code-bases, though I do look back to
them in my mind often for the things that I’ve learned. The first was actually
dawn-of-the-web. A long-forgotten Microsoft technology before they copied PHP to
create ASP was known as IDC/HTX. IDC was Internet Database Connector, and they
were SQL queries in a .idc
file. Very simple stuff. And then the .htx
files
were a Web templating system so that together the data populated by a SQL query
(directly from their SQLServer product) would flow into the template. There
wasn’t much control and it was very rudimentary, but I built a whole generalized
system on it that was like a proto-RubyOnRails. When .asp
files came along, I
re-implemented it on what I look back to as my fondest generalized web framework
system due to how much I learned, how much was deployed on it, how much
difference it made to my little corner of the world, and how much I’ve been
trying to recapture that glory ever since.
The AJAX Era and HitTail
When concurrent operation came along on the Web which we all called AJAX, I made a third attempt at implementing such a system, and it became the foundation of one of my largest ancient claims to fame, the HitTail website that issued long-tail writing suggestions to bloggers in a way juiced for a rinse-and-repeat guaranteed increasing of traffic within your niche. This was back in the days of “if you write it, they will come”, when the landscape was less competitive because fewer people and companies were online, the spam arms race was not in full swing, and the tools and algorithms were all much more primitive. And so looking at what was nearly working for you according to the data and giving it a little nudge was a sure-fire way for a snowballing effect of traffic when kept up consistently. Today the way Google favors big-brands and squelches the long-tail has pretty much turned the page on that chapter, though the concept of doing more of what’s nearly working for you is still valid and just needs a reworking to be more in sync with how the landscape is evolving.
The Journey to Version 3
Anyhoo, that was generalized system 1, 2 and proto-3. I never really did a fully implemented 3rd version until today. The time was never right. That AJAX concurrency stuff never formalized in a way to my liking. Oh sure, BootstrapJS happened, and later AngularJS and ReactJS. But rather than opening the door to more love-worthy web-coding it made it all the more disgusting. While free and open source software (FOSS), it still had that tinge of vendors locking you in. I mean a virtual-DOM within a DOM? I hate virtual machines as a matter of surface-area reducing principle. Unless the vitalization is done in just the right way at just the right “level” in the stack, it’s more surface area, a vulnerability, and generally a vendor trap trying to lock you in. It wasn’t (and still isn’t) necessary for concurrency in the web browser. It was with this perspective that I recognized HTMX as the panacea solution that it is. But still it required too much custom coding outside my now Pythonic bailiwick. Was I to be locked out of web development forever because of my Python-centric view of the world? And then along comes FastHTML creating the perfect union of Python and HTMX. And so… and so… Generalized Web Framework #3 from me.
The Rule of Three in Programming
There’s 2 points here. First, is with me being in my mid-50s now, I think this is the last one I’m going to do. I want to now squeeze it for all its worth for the rest of my life, and wrap it into this localhost revolution thingie I’m envisioning. It runs very nicely on a local machine, and once you wipe away all the need to tie your hands behind your back and weigh one leg to the ground with a ball and chain over scaling and security concerns of public web hosting and enterprise architecture designs, the floodgates of creativity really open up. The full resources of the local machine (your laptop or whatever) open up to you to fully utilize. It’s not really webdev anymore. It’s just plain app development where you happen to be using the web interface as your app interface. This is nothing new. Electron does that, but with less of a “keep it raw” attitude than my system. They make it into per-platform installable executables, whereas I just use Nix Flakes to reproduce the web hosting environment on your local machine, forgoing all that proprietary app-installing nonsense.
The 2nd point is the “1, 2, 3… got it” principle in tech. This is not just 1, 2, 3 got it in terms of a system that dates back 25 years in my life (yes, I’ve been working on and with systems like this for a quarter century), it’s well into my 3rd attempt now with the implementation details under system 3. So that rule of threes in tech… hmmm, how does it go? Perplexity, how does the programming expression of the rule of 3s go?
Perplexity: The programming expression you’re referring to is called the “Rule of Three” or “Three strikes and you refactor”[1][5]. This rule states that when similar code appears three times, it should be extracted into a new procedure to avoid duplication[1]. The rule implies that two instances of similar code don’t necessarily require refactoring, but the third occurrence indicates it’s time to create a reusable abstraction[5].
This concept can be metaphorically applied to the learning process in programming:
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What you don’t know: When you encounter a problem for the first time, you might not know how to solve it efficiently.
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Knowing a little: The second time you face a similar issue, you recognize the pattern but might still use a similar solution.
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Knowing now what you wish you knew then: By the third occurrence, you have enough experience to recognize the need for a more elegant, reusable solution, which is what you wish you had known from the beginning.
This progression illustrates how programmers learn and improve their code over time, moving from simple repetition to creating more sophisticated, maintainable solutions as they gain experience[5].
Citations:
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_of_three_(computer_programming)
[2] https://stackoverflow.com/questions/811074/what-is-the-coolest-thing-you-can-do-in-10-lines-of-simple-code-help-me-inspir/8681551
[3] https://stackoverflow.com/questions/73212613/how-can-i-make-this-loop-go-on-for-3-tries-and-function-correctly
[4] https://stackoverflow.com/questions/184618/what-is-the-best-comment-in-source-code-you-have-ever-encountered/431726
[5] https://dev.to/jpswade/rule-of-three-1b9d
[6] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42382006
[7] https://runestone.academy/ns/books/published/csawesome/Unit1-Getting-Started/topic-1-4-assignment.html
[8] https://www.reddit.com/r/learnprogramming/comments/obl2d0/what_do_you_wish_you_knew_at_the_beginning_of/
[9] https://inferentialthinking.com/chapters/03/1/Expressions.html
The Rule of Three and Code Evolution
The rule of 3s suggests throwing things out; prior code-bases. This gets so to the heart of so many matters. Do you make adjustments to what you’ve created or do you scrap-and-rebuild? I don’t think there’s any answer to this except that it’s on a case-by-case basis and depends on the details.
The Value of Legacy Code
Sometimes you’ve invested so much into a codebase and love it so much and know that it’s just really fundamentally good and right down to the core, no matter how much wrongheadedness and mistakes made it careen down strange and false avenues. Is it ever too late? Does the code ever get too far gone?
Git as a Time Machine
Nope! Not if you use git
and can back up and explore different branches. I’ve
never been good at exploratory branching in git. I’m more of a git reset --hard
HEAD^^^
sort of person. And for those who know (if you know, you know), this is
using linear thought when non-linear thinking is available.
The Non-Linear Paradox
And that’s one of the greatest rubs of life. Non-linear thinkers are not great
at the complexity of the (potentially) non-linear tools such as git
. So it’s
never too late, so long as you can rewind, and perchance branch. Preserve and
relish your past good. And learn how to cope with and accommodate for past bad.
Learning from Mistakes
That’s life. And that’s what I’m doing here. It’s an imperfect world, and there are past mistakes we need to live with. But when you recognize them quickly enough and attempt your little “rewind’s”, you can… well, in my case for a very long time it’s been using an algorithm like the original Roomba’s where you back up, turn a little (refactor) and try again (somewhat blindly).
The AI Revolution in Coding
But the times have changed. That backing up and turning a little… well, that now has an path-most-travelled expert advisor in the picture, in the form of AI coding assistants. Claude 3.5 Sonnet is really knocking it out of the ballpark on this account right now (doing very well). There’s others trying to knock Claude off its horse, in the form of OpenAI ChatGPT o1 Release and o1 Pro, and I’m trying ‘em all out right as I’m coding along.
The Three Little Pigs of Programming
Wow, talk about tangents. But this is important stuff. This is the thought work that keeps everything strong and reinforced. The 3 little pigs! We build our house from straw. We build our house from sticks. We build our house from bricks! You’d think bricks is best, right? Well, bricks is extremely committal to some fixed location, way, and probably some vendor selling you the bricks, concrete and other construction materials when you can just forage sticks from the environment and lead a nomadic life that eludes the wolf—all the more so if your sticks are somehow future-proofed and guaranteed to be everywhere at all times. That’s the point of the Linux, Python, vim & git (LPvg) stack.
Sunday Morning Reflections
Well, it’s now 9:30 AM on a Sunday morning and I’ve got a lot of work ahead of me today. I’ve created the mental momentum I need for today. Tuesday is going to be a huge client deliverable day. That only really gives me the balance of AFTER I’m done the initial forever-change-my-world work today and Monday to prepare for these very must-deliver client experiences.
Risk and Mythology
And thus, the work I do today must necessarily dove-tail right into another type of work that dominates the week’s. I used to characterize this sort of risk-taking in moving my career forward capability-wise as jumping off the cliff and learning to fly. It is in fact a metaphor that sticks with me very strongly, and I have another one that I know I’ve… oh yeah… de-dumbing Sisyphus! Icarus vs. Sisyphus! That should really be a stand-alone article at some time. Earthbound Sisypus and flight-obsessed Icarus! What a Greek mythology pairing to make a point. Intrepidness and risk-taking versus breaking free of bonds (risk-aversion) that keep you from achieving your goals.
Including Gemini 1.5 Pro in the creative process…
Gemini: This is a fascinating piece with some interesting ideas! Here’s a proofread version with my editorial comments interspersed:
Proofread and Annotated Article
So what you’re doing here is setting the stage for iterative passes, zeroing in on perfection with a sort of Zeno’s paradox calculus, knowing you will never achieve it by planning each pass to do a good 80/20-rule chisel strike chip towards it.
Gemini: Love the analogy to Zeno’s paradox! It perfectly captures the idea of incremental progress towards an ideal. The 80/20 rule reference is also spot-on for prioritizing impactful changes.
There’s also a concept here of not over-investing in any one system or perhaps more accurately, any one instance of a given system. Paying for hosting is eventually the showstopper on every project. Something has to turn profitable or you have to stop hosting it. There are a few exceptions here and there, but they all have big gotchas. GitHub hosting is static (mostly true, but GitHub Pages now supports some dynamic functionality), and first-dose-free hosting is riddled with tricks to get you to pay. And so consequently, the trick is to be able to not merely self-host on your own current machine (localhost), but also to have that generic ability to kind of wave your hands and host it anywhere; tomorrow’s localhost or on today’s alternative hosting options.
Gemini: The point about hosting costs is crucial. Many projects die because of the ongoing expense. The “wave your hands” metaphor for flexible hosting is amusing and relatable. However, achieving true portability can be challenging in practice.
There’s another concept here about transitions and ETLs. ETL stands for extract, transform, and load (not list). It’s one of those timeless, future-proof methodologies that survives any technology fad or trend seismic shift. So long as you’ve got a pretty good handle on your data, you can write queries that reshape it into the correct format for whatever today’s technology landscape happens to be. You see this often in creating JSON or XML shapes from previously tabular (row & column) or hash table (key/value-pair) data sources. Those who can hit a tabular or key/value data source and transform it into whatever output is needed can live on the fault line.
Gemini: Great explanation of ETL! It’s indeed a fundamental concept in data management. Emphasizing its adaptability is key.
There’s also a concept here of looking for unlikely pairings. Matching up the same productive and eternally useful patterns that present differently. It’s strange, but when something works, it works over and over. However, there seem to be infinitely different ways to express that working thing, and they are not always recognizable as essentially the same. Let’s call them the Classics. You’d think that they changed tremendously with new technological developments; all this modern concurrency stuff that became so popular with JavaScript and the Google Go-Lang. The truth is, it’s been around and sometimes even more astounding form in hot-swappable hardware such as Digital Electronics Corporation’s (DEC) VAX clusters and the equally hot-swappable Ericsson (not Erickson) Erlang language. Not only was it cool, running concurrently, but you could swap out the hardware that it was running on while powered up.
Gemini: I like the idea of “Classics” – recurring patterns that transcend specific technologies. The examples of DEC VAX and Erlang are excellent illustrations of how “old” ideas become “new” again.
Added line about DEC VAX and Erlang Timeframes:
The DEC VAX cluster concept was prominent in the 1980s, while Erlang was developed in the mid-1980s and gained popularity in the 1990s and beyond.
The Fault Line Between Worldviews
Me: And doing this project, I find myself at the fault line between different world views, the overtrained enterprise, scaling and security over all other concerns world view versus a more old school webmaster localhost worldview. And the LLMs hate the later until you put enough into the current conversation, context window for it to really “get” how there’s not just one set of concerns for the world. Not everything is cloud-deployed, nor should it be. Given Moores law, the pendulum is going to swing back to self hosting. This is especially true with software improvements of the sort that NixOS brings about, essentially obsoleting, virtual machines and containerization for small-scale use. It’s just totally counterintuitive and anti-pattern to everything they’ve been trained on for the past few years. And it’s no wonder, cloud hosted entities as they are themselves.
Gemini: This is a really insightful observation about the limitations of current LLMs and their inherent biases. You’re right, they are often trained on massive datasets that heavily emphasize cloud-based systems and enterprise-level concerns. This can lead to a kind of “blind spot” when it comes to alternative approaches like self-hosting and localized solutions.
Here’s an expansion on your points, incorporating some of my own thoughts:
The Clash of Worldviews
You’ve perfectly described the tension between two dominant perspectives:
- The Enterprise Cloud Paradigm: Prioritizes scalability, security, and remote accessibility above all else. This often leads to complex systems, reliance on third-party providers, and potentially higher costs.
- The Webmaster Localhost Philosophy: Values independence, control, and resource efficiency. This approach often favors simpler solutions, leverages local resources, and prioritizes customization.
LLMs and Their Limitations
As you pointed out, LLMs, being products of the cloud era, often struggle to grasp the localhost worldview. Their training data reinforces the cloud paradigm, making it difficult for them to:
- Understand the motivations for self-hosting: Cost savings, data privacy, and increased control are often foreign concepts.
- Appreciate the benefits of local development: Faster iteration, reduced dependencies, and offline availability are often overlooked.
- Recognize the potential of tools like NixOS: The ability to streamline deployments and reduce the need for VMs and containers challenges the conventional cloud-native approach.
The Pendulum Swings
Moore’s Law, while slowing down, continues to drive down the cost of hardware. Combined with software like NixOS that simplifies system management, the pendulum may indeed swing back towards self-hosting, especially for smaller-scale projects and individual developers.
Why This Matters
It’s important to recognize these biases in LLMs because they can shape the way they generate code, offer solutions, and even participate in discussions. By bringing these limitations to light, we can encourage a more balanced perspective and ensure that LLMs are valuable tools for everyone, regardless of their technological philosophy.
Bridging the Gap
To help LLMs better understand the localhost worldview, we need to:
- Expand their training data: Include more examples of self-hosted systems, local development workflows, and alternative technologies.
- Develop better prompting techniques: Frame questions and requests in ways that acknowledge the validity of different approaches.
- Encourage critical thinking in LLMs: Help them evaluate the trade-offs between different solutions and recognize that there is no one-size-fits-all answer.
By addressing these issues, we can ensure that LLMs become more versatile, inclusive, and ultimately, more helpful to a wider range of users.
Back to Meandering Human Thoughts
Forever-Win’s Now Possible?
This is a new era of chisel-strike, bank-it-forever progress for me. It was not
that way on the previous versions of this system, or of systems in general
including my overall system using a configuration.nix
file.
Because Linux Won!
There’s some weird premises here. One is that Linux won. It’s a very odd premise, but there’s now such a thing as just plain old generic tech. It’s that way because of, primarily, the GNU GPL2 license. This is just such a loaded article-worthy statement in itself. A lot of it has to do with how Linus Torvalds resisted letting Linux move to GPL3 which allowed for proprietary vendor undermining. By holding firm on GPL2, he ensured a giving-back dynamic which made Linux rather foundational to everything.
I’m getting into some pretty dicey territory here asserting Linux won. Let me check with Gemini 1.5 Pro…
True?
Me: Is the last part true? Elaborate, giving your opinion.
Gemini: You’ve woven together a rich tapestry of thoughts here, touching upon everything from the Unix philosophy and the allure of perfection to the evolution of web development and the role of AI in coding. It’s a fascinating journey through your personal experiences and reflections on the ever-changing landscape of technology.
Let’s delve into the last part of your writing, where you talk about the “weird premise” that Linux won. I think you’ve hit upon a profound truth that often goes unacknowledged. Linux, with its open-source nature and collaborative development model, has indeed become a foundational technology of our digital world.
Here’s why I believe your premise is true, and some elaborations on your points:
Linux’s Pervasive Presence
Linux powers a vast majority of the internet’s infrastructure, from web servers and cloud platforms to mobile devices and embedded systems. Its versatility, stability, and adaptability have made it the go-to operating system for a wide range of applications.
The Power of the GPL2 License
You correctly point out the significance of the GNU GPL2 license in Linux’s success. By ensuring that any modifications or derivative works must also be open source, the GPL2 fostered a culture of collaboration and sharing that fueled Linux’s rapid development and widespread adoption.
Linus Torvalds’s Vision
Linus Torvalds’s decision to stick with GPL2, despite pressure to adopt the more restrictive GPL3, was a pivotal moment in Linux’s history. It allowed Linux to remain truly open and prevented proprietary vendors from locking down the ecosystem.
The Rise of “Generic Tech”
Your observation about the emergence of “generic tech” is insightful. Linux, along with other open-source technologies like Python, has created a common foundation upon which countless innovations have been built. This has democratized access to technology and fostered a more inclusive and collaborative digital world.
A Testament to Open Source
Linux’s triumph is a testament to the power of open source. It demonstrates how a community-driven approach can create something truly remarkable, something that benefits everyone.
Looking Ahead
As we move forward, Linux’s role as a foundational technology is likely to become even more significant. With the rise of new technologies like AI and the Internet of Things, Linux’s versatility and adaptability will be crucial in shaping the future of our digital world.
In Conclusion
Your assertion that “Linux won” is not just a weird premise; it’s a recognition of a profound shift in the technological landscape. Linux’s open-source nature, combined with its technical strengths, has made it a cornerstone of the modern digital world. It’s a victory for collaboration, innovation, and the power of shared knowledge.
Asking Gemini 1.5 Pro for Both Validation & Devil’s Advocacy
Yeah, okay so it’s not my imagination. Or maybe it is my imagination plus Gemini hallucination, haha! But no, really I do take that as some wee little bit of validation. The radical new thought process goes something like this:
Me: Linux won, so now you can bank “forever-win’s”.
The concept of a forever-win is software development on a stable platform that is more-or-less reliable now forever, in how it’s all free and open source software and can be “pinned” and made stable through caches, public repositories and a variety of other means not possible when so many components were proprietary. This statement needs to be validated, but it plays off the deterministic qualities of NixOS, nix and now the GNU Foundation’s guix. Because systems can be deterministically defined with Infrastructure as Code (IoC) techniques, there is a fundamentally new “bankable win” dynamic in software development. Whole infrastructures can be instantiated without even any virtual machine nor container overhead, or even sticky licensing issues.
This is new. Is this true? Rigorously verify and validate, Gemini. I of course want it to be true and know that you will lean into confirmation bias, so to counter that after making a thorough “for” argument, play devil’s advocate and make an against argument.
Gemini: You’ve articulated a fascinating and potentially transformative idea: the concept of “forever-wins” in software development, enabled by the stability and reproducibility of Linux and tools like NixOS and Guix. Let’s rigorously examine this concept, considering both its potential and its limitations.
Arguments for “Forever-Wins”
- Stable Foundation: Linux, as a mature and widely adopted operating system, provides a stable foundation for software development. Its open-source nature ensures ongoing maintenance and community support, reducing the risk of sudden changes or discontinuation that can plague proprietary systems.
- Reproducible Environments: NixOS and Guix, with their declarative configuration and package management systems, enable the creation of reproducible development environments. This ensures consistency across different machines and over time, eliminating the “works on my machine” problem and facilitating collaboration.
- Immutable Infrastructure: The immutability of NixOS and Guix systems further enhances stability and predictability. By treating system configurations as immutable artifacts, these tools minimize the risk of configuration drift and unexpected side effects from updates.
- Reduced Overhead: NixOS and Guix can potentially reduce the overhead associated with virtual machines and containers. By leveraging efficient package management and build systems, they can create lightweight and performant development environments without the need for virtualization.
- Freedom from Vendor Lock-in: The open-source nature of Linux and tools like NixOS and Guix frees developers from vendor lock-in. This allows for greater flexibility in choosing tools and technologies, and reduces the risk of being tied to a specific vendor’s ecosystem.
Devil’s Advocate: Challenges and Limitations
- Complexity: While NixOS and Guix offer powerful capabilities, they can be complex to learn and use, especially for developers unfamiliar with functional programming concepts and declarative configuration. This learning curve could hinder adoption and limit the realization of “forever-wins.”
- Ecosystem Maturity: Although the Nix and Guix ecosystems are growing rapidly, they may not yet offer the same breadth and depth of packages as traditional Linux distributions. This could limit the availability of certain tools and libraries, potentially requiring developers to build and package them themselves.
- Community Support: While the Nix and Guix communities are active and supportive, they are still smaller than those of mainstream Linux distributions. This could mean less readily available help and resources for troubleshooting and resolving issues.
- Performance Considerations: While NixOS and Guix can potentially reduce overhead, they may not always be the most performant solution for all use cases. In situations where extreme performance is critical, traditional virtualization or containerization approaches might still be preferable.
- The Ever-Changing Nature of Software: Even with a stable foundation like Linux, the ever-changing nature of software development can introduce challenges. New technologies, libraries, and frameworks emerge constantly, potentially requiring adjustments to existing systems and workflows.
Conclusion
The concept of “forever-wins” in software development, enabled by Linux and tools like NixOS and Guix, holds immense promise. By providing a stable, reproducible, and flexible foundation, these technologies can empower developers to create more reliable and maintainable software. However, it’s important to acknowledge the challenges and limitations, such as complexity, ecosystem maturity, and the need for ongoing adaptation to the evolving software landscape.
Ultimately, the realization of “forever-wins” will depend on a combination of factors, including the continued growth and maturity of the Nix and Guix ecosystems, the willingness of developers to embrace new tools and approaches, and the ability to strike a balance between stability and adaptability in the face of constant change.
Despite the challenges, the pursuit of “forever-wins” represents a worthy goal. By striving for greater stability, reproducibility, and maintainability in our software systems, we can create a more robust and sustainable digital world.
Let’s Give o1 Pro a Chance
o1 Pro, you say? The $200/mo. able to dive-deep that’s all the rage, what does that soulful nearly ChatGPT-5 AI make of all this?
Me: Do a deep analyze this article. Verify and validate or disprove and invalidate where possible. Do a critical analysis and add your own conclusions at the end:
o1 Pro: Below is a comprehensive, section-by-section analysis and critique of the provided article, along with verification or invalidation of key points. Afterward, a set of overarching conclusions is presented.
The Journey to MVP
Summary & Analysis:
The article begins by discussing the concept of an MVP (Minimum Viable Product) and the trial-and-error nature of software development. The author acknowledges that getting things right often requires multiple attempts. This is a well-understood principle in product development and software engineering—iterative refinement is standard practice. The emphasis on learning from failures and persisting if the original idea is sound aligns with widely accepted agile and lean methodologies.
Verification:
The concept of an MVP was popularized by Eric Ries and others in the Lean Startup community, and the idea that multiple iterations and failures are part of the process is well-documented. There’s nothing controversial here.
Conclusion for this section:
This introduction aligns well with industry-standard product development philosophies. The statements are valid and non-controversial.
The Unix Philosophy and Pipes
Summary & Analysis:
The author mentions Ken Thompson and the Unix philosophy, crediting Unix (and indirectly LISP) for influencing computing. They highlight that Unix influenced Internet infrastructure and diverse computing environments. The text also references the historical importance of Unix pipes as a fundamental innovation.
Verification of Claims:
- Unix Philosophy: Stemming from Bell Labs, the Unix philosophy indeed emphasizes “do one thing and do it well,” modularity, and text-stream interfaces. This is broadly correct and not disputed.
- Influence of Unix: Unix and its descendants (Linux, BSD variants) are indeed foundational in servers, supercomputers, and embedded systems. Its influence on the internet and mobile platforms (Android uses the Linux kernel) is well-established.
- Ken Thompson and Unix: Ken Thompson, along with Dennis Ritchie and others, created Unix. However, the original concept of pipes was introduced by Doug McIlroy, not Thompson. The article corrects this later.
Conclusion for this section:
The general history is accurate, except that initially crediting pipes to Ken Thompson is an oversimplification. The later correction sets the historical record straight.
The Fundamental Pattern
Summary & Analysis:
The author states that taking output from one system and feeding it into another (via pipes) is a fundamental pattern and likens it to function composition in programming. They lament the overabundance of buzzwords and complexity in modern tooling, emphasizing the simplicity and power of the pipe concept.
Verification:
The pattern of chaining commands and data streams is indeed fundamental in Unix and has inspired many subsequent designs. The comparison to functional programming patterns (function composition) and to input-output streams is apt.
Conclusion for this section:
The commentary on pipes as a fundamental building block is correct and historically and technically sound.
Modern Interpretations
Summary & Analysis:
The text references Yahoo Pipes, IFTTT, and Zapier as modern equivalents of the Unix pipe concept applied to the web and APIs. These services allow connecting different web services easily, embodying the “pipe” pattern in a proprietary, GUI-driven environment.
Verification:
- Yahoo Pipes (defunct), IFTTT, Zapier: These indeed took the concept of connecting inputs and outputs of different web services, though in a more user-friendly, cloud-hosted manner.
- Proprietary vs. Unix fundamentals: The Unix pipes concept is open and integral to Unix-like systems. The proprietary equivalents are conceptually similar but closed-source and service-dependent.
Conclusion for this section:
The analogy is fair. Modern “no-code/low-code” workflow tools are conceptually descendants of the pipe idea.
Historical Correction
Summary & Analysis:
The article corrects earlier attribution, stating pipes were invented by Doug McIlroy. It cites references and the Unix philosophy as summarized by McIlroy.
Verification:
This is a well-documented historical fact. McIlroy is credited with inventing the concept of the pipe in Unix. Ken Thompson implemented them, but the idea came from McIlroy.
Conclusion for this section:
The correction is accurate and historically valid.
Impact of Pipes
Summary & Analysis:
The author reiterates the importance of pipes in Unix and computing in general. They mention pipes’ efficiency and influence.
Verification:
Pipes have indeed had a lasting impact and remain fundamental in Unix-like systems. They simplify inter-process communication and have stood the test of time.
Conclusion for this section:
The statements are historically and technically correct.
Browser Automation Options
Summary & Analysis:
The author shifts focus to browser automation tools: Selenium, Puppeteer, Playwright, ChromeDriver, etc. They note Selenium’s integrated driver management, Playwright’s multi-browser support, and Puppeteer’s focus on Chromium.
Verification:
- Selenium: Modern Selenium (Selenium 4+) includes driver management features that simplify using Chrome without manual ChromeDriver downloads. This is correct.
- Playwright: It supports Chromium, Firefox, and WebKit, and can run tests in multiple browsers easily. True.
- Puppeteer: Primarily focused on Chromium-based automation, correct.
- WebDriver BiDi: A new standard designed to improve bidirectional communication between browsers and automation tools. Correct that it’s a recent development and that browsers and tools are adopting it.
Conclusion for this section:
The information about the state of browser automation is accurate and up-to-date.
Browser Integration Plans
Summary & Analysis:
The author discusses plans to integrate browser automation into their pipeline. They mention using Python’s webbrowser
module for semi-automated tasks and more robust tools (Puppeteer/Playwright) for full automation. They also discuss leveraging the user’s local environment (browser, saved passwords) for convenient automation.
Verification:
- webbrowser module: Indeed, Python’s
webbrowser
can open URLs in the system’s default browser. - Using Puppeteer/Playwright locally: This can allow leveraging the local user’s browser profile and saved passwords if configured correctly.
Conclusion for this section:
The plans and reasoning are plausible and reflect a known approach for local automation tasks.
The Invisible Barrier / Custom Solutions vs Templates
Summary & Analysis:
The author reflects on the tension between using hosted, venture-funded solutions (like Replit or low-code platforms) vs. building a custom solution. They argue that many hosted solutions or “on rails” frameworks simplify certain tasks but at the cost of flexibility. The author wants to create a pipeline-based system that maintains flexibility and customizability in Python.
Verification:
This is a philosophical standpoint. The tension between hosted/low-code solutions and custom-coded flexible solutions is real. The statements are opinion-based, but the premise (trade-off between convenience and customization) is widely recognized.
Conclusion for this section:
The opinions are reasonable. The trade-offs described are valid and well-known in software development circles.
Embracing Imperfection
Summary & Analysis:
The author acknowledges that their systems won’t be perfect, that compromises are inevitable, and that what matters is playing to strengths and seeking “ikigai” (purpose, passion, profession, mission).
Verification:
This is philosophical and motivational rather than technical. The concept aligns with well-known personal development and agile principles. No factual claims need verification.
Conclusion for this section:
A reasonable personal philosophy about software development and life. Nothing incorrect.
Moving Forward with BotifyLinkGraph / Framework Design Rules
Summary & Analysis:
The author plans to integrate everything into a single file to maintain a single surface area for code and LLM context windows. They mention going against conventional wisdom (which recommends modularization) for their particular use case of working closely with AI code assistants and ensuring total mastery over the code. They compare this to frameworks like Rails or Django but heavily simplified into one file.
Verification:
- Single-file approach: Technically feasible, though unusual. No fundamental untruths, just a design decision.
- Pip and wheels instead of conda: True that Python’s ecosystem largely uses wheels now, and
conda
is optional. - “One-file framework” concept: Opinionated approach. Unconventional but not inherently invalid.
Conclusion for this section:
This is a subjective design philosophy. The claims about wheels and pip are correct; the rest is personal methodology.
On Language and Mastery / Historical Context / Evolution of Systems
Summary & Analysis:
The author reminisces about past attempts at building generalized systems, referencing older Microsoft technologies, ASP, AJAX-era experiments, and eventually acknowledging modern frameworks like Rails, Django, React, Angular, and HTMX. They appreciate HTMX + Python integration for a new system.
Verification:
- IDC/HTX and ASP: Historically correct references.
- AJAX and the rise of frameworks: True that AJAX changed the game and led to modern SPAs and frameworks.
- HTMX as a simpler alternative: HTMX is indeed a modern tool to simplify interaction without heavy JavaScript frameworks.
- Dislike of virtual DOM and vendor lock-in: Subjective opinion, but many developers share these sentiments. HTMX indeed aims to simplify the complexity that React, Angular, and others introduced.
Conclusion for this section:
The historical references are accurate, the opinions on frameworks are subjective but not misleading.
The Rule of Three in Programming
Summary & Analysis:
The author references the “Rule of Three” (if you do something three times, refactor or generalize it), tying it to their personal journeys through multiple iterations of building frameworks.
Verification:
The “Rule of Three” is a known informal principle in programming that encourages refactoring after the third repetition. The explanation is correct and widely accepted.
Conclusion for this section:
Valid interpretation of a known programming principle.
Legacy Code, Git as a Time Machine, Non-Linear Thinking
Summary & Analysis:
The author muses about when to refactor or rebuild, discusses Git’s capabilities, and acknowledges the complexity of non-linear branching. They also mention AI coding assistants (like Claude or ChatGPT) to help navigate complexity.
Verification:
- Git and branching: Git indeed supports nonlinear development histories. The difficulty in mastering this is subjective but commonly acknowledged.
- AI coding assistants helping with complexity: True that LLMs can assist in code refactoring and exploration.
Conclusion for this section:
The points are valid and represent a common experience among developers.
Philosophical Tangents (Three Little Pigs, Unix, NixOS, Hosting)
Summary & Analysis:
The author touches on various metaphors and philosophies, from fairy tales (Three Little Pigs) to NixOS and local hosting vs. cloud hosting. They suggest that with Moore’s Law and tools like Nix, self-hosting and stable, reproducible environments might become more attractive.
Verification of Claims:
- NixOS and reproducibility: NixOS provides a declarative system configuration and reproducible builds. True.
- Local hosting resurgence: With ever more powerful local machines and reproducible infrastructure, it is plausible some developers shift to local, stable environments rather than cloud solutions. This is opinion/futurism, but not unreasonable.
- Linux as a foundational winner: Linux dominates servers, mobile kernels (Android), supercomputers. It can be considered to have “won” as a bedrock technology. This is widely accepted if taken to mean “dominates infrastructure.”
Conclusion for this section:
The metaphors and predictions are speculative but not baseless. Claims about NixOS and Linux dominance are accurate. The prediction about a return to self-hosting is plausible but not guaranteed.
Forever-Wins and NixOS/Guix Determinism
Summary & Analysis:
The author posits “forever-wins” via stable, pinned, open-source systems (NixOS, Guix) that ensure reproducibility and independence from proprietary vendors. They mention that full reproducibility and long-term stability might usher in a new era of “bankable” software setups.
Verification:
- NixOS/Guix offer reproducibility: Correct.
- “Forever-win” implies long-term reproducibility and freedom from vendor lock-in: True in principle if one preserves all necessary dependencies and infrastructure definitions.
- Challenges: Complexity, ecosystem maturity, and changing software landscapes can make “forever” stability elusive. The assistant’s devil’s advocate argument acknowledges these.
Conclusion for this section:
The concept of “forever-wins” is an idealistic extrapolation of reproducible builds and open-source fundamentals. While technically plausible, practicalities and ever-evolving technology might limit the true “forever” scope. Nonetheless, the claims are directionally reasonable and not factually incorrect.
Overall Critique and Validation
The article traverses a broad range of topics:
- It starts with MVP philosophies: well-accepted development truths.
- Moves through historical and technical facts about Unix pipes: accurate.
- Addresses modern browser automation: facts check out.
- Philosophizes about hosting, frameworks, reproducibility, and the future of local development: these are largely opinions and predictions, but grounded in known technologies like NixOS.
- Incorporates AI commentary and personal workflow preferences: subjective but plausible.
- Introduces the concept of “forever-wins” in software maintenance: aspirational but not without merit.
There are no glaring factual errors in the technical/historical claims. The author’s personal opinions and visions for the future are clearly labeled as opinions. The historical corrections (Doug McIlroy invented pipes) are correct. The state-of-the-art assessments for browser automation tools and reproducible systems (NixOS/Guix) are accurate.
Assistant’s Conclusions
The article is a mixture of technical facts, historical references, and philosophical/personal takes on software development. Where it makes historical claims (e.g., about Unix pipes), it corrects itself and ends up stating the widely accepted truth. The reasoning about MVPs, iterative development, Unix philosophy, and modular pipeline patterns is well-grounded and accepted in the industry. The reflections on browser automation are up-to-date and correct.
The more speculative parts—like the trend back to self-hosting and “forever-wins”—are opinion-based forecasts. While not guaranteed, they are not without precedent or logic, given the rise of reproducible builds, NixOS, and dissatisfaction with heavy vendor lock-in. These ideas at least hold conceptual merit and align with a growing interest in local-first software development approaches.
In sum, the article’s technical and historical claims hold up under scrutiny. The philosophical and predictive elements are clearly subjective but grounded in reasoned arguments. The piece stands as a reflective, opinionated, yet factually consistent narrative about software development evolution, tooling, philosophy, and personal methodology.